Saturday, 10 October 2026

Is this Patrick Malone 'ours'?- UPDATE- No!

I knew ages ago that a Patrick Malone was buried in Darfield Catholic Cemetery, where my great-grandfather Patrick Riordan is also buried. But I never tried to find out any more about him, as I had no evidence he was related. Courtesy of electoral rolls, I know that my Malone grandmother Margaret, and two of her siblings, Bridget and Patrick, were at one stage all living on Patrick Riordan's farm in Charing Cross. But as far as I knew, they weren't related to the Patrick Malone resident in Darfield with his wife Ellen. 

However, I have recently discovered that the 'other' Malone family in Ballinadrideen had a child Patrick who was baptised in 1855 in Ballyhea Parish. And I haven't managed to find out any more about this Patrick in Ireland. So I decided it was worth trying to find out if he might be  related. It wouldn't be the first time I have found an unknown Irish relative living in 'proximity' in New Zealand. 

So what have I done so far? First I rechecked the cemetery listing for Darfield Catholic Cemetery, where there is a  headstone for "Ellen Malone 1863-1895,  Patrick Malone 1855-1949 RIP." 1855 is the right birth year for my 'lost' Patrick from Ballinadrideen.

I have had a bit of a poke around for more information about Patrick and Ellen. From Luke Howison's website I have found their 'intentions to marry' certificate in 1894 for the Roman Catholic Church in Darfield, with Ellen's maiden name given as Kearin.

By checking Archives via Family Search, I found there was a will for Ellen, written when she was close to death in 1895, where she left everything in trust for her children John, Margaret, May, Kate, Patrick and Timothy. The youngest, Timothy, was born in 1895, the year of her death. It would be interesting to follow up on the baptisms for these children, to see if any of them have a Riordan sponsor.

Just as an aside here, Ellen's name is not mentioned in her funeral notice: she is simply listed as Patrick's 'late wife'. When Patrick was buried with her many years later in 1948, when he was aged 93, he had a private interment.

So all this has been very interesting, but I am still no closer to working out whether this Patrick Malone who lived in Darfield was related to my Ballinadrideen Malones. I don't splash out the cash very often on a death registration printout, especially when there is doubt someone is even related, but I decided to order the death registration printout for Patrick. Chances are probably quite high when he is 93 at death that his parents will simply be recorded as 'unknown'- but if they are John and Mary, and his birthplace is somewhere close to Ballyhea Parish, then chances are higher that he is related. Time will tell. 
The other thing I have ordered, via NSZG certificates collection, is Ellen's death certificate- not that I really think I will learn much about Patrick from it, but it might fill out the picture. I'll keep you posted.

UPDATE: The printout was worth getting because it disproved this Patrick Malone as being a family member of ours. His father was John- but he was from Co Waterford, and his father was a boilermaker. So it cost me $26 to find this out- but it was worth it- it disproves the theory that he might have been born in Ballinadrideen! This discovery now saves me from further investigation of this Patrick, and one day I can explore whether 'our' Patrick might perhaps have gone to America, where other family members went.

 

Friday, 2 October 2026

Malone families in Ballinadrideen- Exploring Connections


While I had extra time at home during Covid lockdowns, I researched more into my Malone family in Ballinadrideen, Co Cork, Ireland, descended from Jeremiah Malone and Margaret Riordan. I made a blog post summarising what I had learned about the children of the family, who were siblings of my grandmother Margaret Malone. I was aware that there was an ‘earlier’ Malone family in the same parish, but I didn’t have any evidence we were connected, so I never followed them up.

I couldn’t find a baptism for my Jeremiah, and didn’t have any other evidence about who his parents were, but using Irish naming patterns, I surmised that his father’s name might be John, and that perhaps his mother’s name was Mary. The father of the ‘earlier’ family was named John Malone. I wondered if he might be Jeremiah’s father.

Imagine my surprise on 1 August 2026, 5+ years later, when I got a blog comment from someone descended from the ‘other’ Malone family. He had a theory about how the families might be connected. He thought that Maurice Malone who took over the farm in Ballinadrideen following Jeremiah’s death, might well be a first cousin to a Maurice Malone of Imphrick, not too distant from Ballinadrideen, who was the eldest son of John Malone, of the ‘earlier’ Malone family in Ballyhea Parish. It was time to do some more research, this time into the ‘older’ Malone family.

I knew from his death registration that my great-grandfather Jeremiah Malone must have been born about 1826, as he was said to be 80 years old when he died in 1906. Then I discovered a couple of headstones in Ballyhay Old Cemetery that were key. John Malone of Ballinadrideen had erected a headstone in memory of his father John Malone who died 26 October 1861, aged 74 years, meaning he was born around 1787. A second headstone was for John’s mother Mary Malone née Ryan who died 1st May 1870 aged 80 years, so she was born around 1790. This headstone also named Honora whose married name was Ryan, who was the sister of John Malone who erected the headstone. She was 52 when she died in 1887, so must have been born around 1835.

I also found the death registration for the son John who had erected these headstones, on 30 April 1893, aged 80 years. He died in Ballinadrideen, and must have been born around 1813. 


Given these dates, I made some hypotheses about how Jeremiah (b1826) John (b1813) John (b1787), and Honora (b1835) might be connected. 
I thought that the older John was probably the father of both Jeremiah and the younger John, as well as of Honora. This is of course just a theory, and given the lack of many records in Ireland in the early 1800s, I am unlikely to find much further documentary proof of these relationships.

However, I decided to research more into the family of John Malone and Mary White, the ‘earlier’ family in Ballinadrideen, to see if I could find any DNA connections with their descendants. And indeed, I do have such connections, from several lines of the descendants. (Cautionary tale, I am largely using ThruLines and other people’s family trees at this stage, so my conclusions are reliant on the trees others have put together.) I have set up a private tree to record my findings, so others won’t be blindly copying what are my theories. The links are with people who are around the third cousin once removed, or fourth cousin kind of level, which is what you would expect. 

I won’t use full names here, as I don’t want to compromise anyone’s privacy, but here are a few indications of some matches. From Honora Ryan née Malone, ThruLines shows two matches via her daughters Kate (b1867) and Marie (b1866) Ryan. From John Malone (1813) there is a ThruLines connection via his daughter Margaret Galvin née Malone.

Next, I did some surname searches using married names of some of the Malone daughters. With the Blake name I turned up someone with 21 matches, many of whom I had previously identified as Malone line matches. I have messaged someone with a tree showing his Blake descent, who has put many photos etc up on Ancestry, and hope he might reply to me soon. Similarly with the Galvin name.

Clearly there is a lot of research to be done before I can be certain that my initial theory that John (b 1813) and Jeremiah (b 1826) are siblings rather than just cousins, but there are enough DNA connections at this stage for me to be confident that the two Malone families in Ballinadrideen are related.


This map shows how initially, several of the married Malone daughters lived not too distant from Ballinadrideen. Mary, who married Denis Callaghan, lived in Farthingville; Margaret, who married Robert Galvin, lived in Ballinadrideen (though her husband and sons later moved to New York); and Hanora, who married Thomas Blake, lived in Boherascrub, Buttevant. 

  Margaret Riordan
2 October 2016